I’m restarting Mocha - talideon.com

February 16, 2005 at 11:52PM I’m restarting Mocha

While Sage is the closest I’ve ever got to an RSS aggregator I actually liked, it’s still not right. There are just too many things about it that irk me somewhat.

I’ve tried so many of the blasted things and a few things have been confirmed for me time after time after time:

RSS Aggregators are not email programs: RSS Bandit, FeedDemon, SharpReader, Thunderbird, &c. all suck as aggregators. Ok, so FeedDemon’s not too bad, but it still feels too much like a mail app.
Live bookmarks suck too.
It’s nice to be able to search old entries, but Sage doesn’t keep them.
The Comments API is nothing but a good idea.
Bloglines is pretty close to what I wanted Mocha to be, but it’s a webapp, so it sucks.

I’ve been dithering, as I’m wont to do, about finishing Mocha, but being a bit of an Architecture Astronaut, I have a tendancy to get lots of good ideas that don’t really go anywhere.

I started Mocha before all the desktop aggregators started coming out, but never finished it. Everybody has those projects that they start, but never get around to finishing, but this one really burns me. I know what I want, but I keep putting off actually getting it.

So, this being Lent and all, I’m going to do something about it. I’m going to flip the concept about and rather than giving something up, I’m going to take something up. Starting this weekend, I’m putting MinGW, wxWidgets and libxml2 on my laptop and I’m finishing it.

Just in case you’re wondering how long this thing’s been bouncing around in the background, then here is me complaining about doing nothing about it two years ago, and the first mention I could find of it back ing March 2002. And I know the idea was bouncing around long before that. Hmmm... reading back over some of that reminds me of how whiney I can be.

What I wanted it to be like

My vision back in the day for Mocha was quite simple:

You have two panes.
In the left pane, you have your feeds arranged hierarchically.
In the right pane, you have a viewer.
When you click on a feed, all the unread entries in that feed are displayed in the viewer.
If you click on a folder, you get all the unread entries for the feed within that folder.
And, of course, if you click on the root folder, you get all your unread entries.

Of course, this was it at its simplest level. There was more.

Along the bottom is the filter toolbar.
You can filter by date.
From now to a time in the past, or...
...between a date range, or...
...with keywords, or...
...a combination of the above.
And using this, you could browse your archives.

But wait, there’s more!

At the bottom of the left sidebar you have a calendar. On this would be marked all the days with entries in the selected month, so you could page through your archives easily.

And that’s it. That is what I intended for Mocha. And it’s a damned sight better than any of the UIs I’ve seen for aggregators up till now.

Comments

1 On March 11, 2005 at 0:46, Keith Devens wrote:

Whoa, when did you get comments? BTW, you shouldn’t automatically make the name field get the focus, since it forces the page to be displayed at the bottom of the post. For a post that’s not tiny, most of it at the top will be cut off. It took me a few seconds to figure out what was happening.

2 On March 15, 2005 at 22:28, Keith wrote:

That’s code I’ve been meaning to kill for ages. It was something neat that I was trying out, and I just kinda forgot I have it there.

Yup, I’ve had comments for quite a while now. The code’s written so that I can put comments on just about any page of the site, which is nice. Damned spammonkeys though: I get notified of each comment on this site, and the comments don’t give them any googlejuice, so I don’t know why they don’t just bog off and spam somewhere else.

And ont the topic of comments, I’m after adjusting your comment above so that your full name is on it. Can’t have people think I’m talking to myself, can I?

3 On March 16, 2005 at 17:30, Keith Devens wrote:

Sorry about using the first name only... should have known better.